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Look, Jack. Here's the skinny: Leaving your gat out in the open probably isn’t a good idea, but it ain’t against the law, either. I got the bum’s rush for nothin’!
Here’s the setup: it was the local weekly match, at an indoor dive called “Joes”. There was a mob inside—the usual mugs with a couple of stand up guys mixed in. I eased outside to grab a smoke, but since the coppers have been on the prowl, I laid my piece on the safety table inside, unloaded, graveyard end to the wall. After butting out my coffin nail, I slipped back inside, grabbed my heater, and holstered it. I was giving this dame the eye—gams that wouldn’t quit and lamps that tripped my ticker -- when some palooka braced me and said, “I saw that move, pal: time to take the air.” I thought he was one of the range bulls, but I wasn’t sure, and here he was giving me the bum’s rush. “What’s your problem?” I sneered, as I shook his mitt off my arm. He only gave me a stony stare and said, “You can’t leave that gat laying around like that—hit the bricks.” I wanted to mouth off, or even slug the guy, but the other mugs were giving me the eye, and I ain’t a sap. I packed my gear and legged it out of there, swearing to get a little payback.
How about it, Spade, can you help me out of a jam?
No DQ. There is no rule to support such an action for an abandoned gun in the safety area. It would be good to point out to the individual that it is "bad form" to do so however.
Posted by: Jeff LaFave May 23, 2007 05:05 PM
2.4 Safety Areas
The host organization is responsible for the construction and placement of a sufficient number of Safety Areas for the match. They should be conveniently placed and easily identified with signs. Safety Areas should include a table with the safe direction and boundaries clearly shown. Safety Areas should include a suitable gun rack or racks, as they are intended for use by all IPSC disciplines, particularly during Tournaments.
2.4.1 Competitors are permitted to use the Safety Areas for the activities
stated below provided they remain within the boundaries of
the Safety Area and the firearm is pointed in a safe direction.
Violations may be subject to match disqualification (see Rules
10.5.1 & 10.5.12).
2.4.1.1 Casing, uncasing, and holstering unloaded firearms.
2.4.1.2 Practice the mounting, drawing, “dry-firing” and re-holstering
of unloaded firearms.
2.4.1.3 Practice the insertion and removal of empty magazines
and/or to cycle the action of a firearm.
2.4.1.4 Conduct inspections, stripping, cleaning, repairs and maintenance
of firearms, component parts and other accessories.
No DQ - while not specifically stated as allowable, it's also not specifically stated as NOT ALLOWABLE. The competitor left it in a safe position, within the boundaries.
Posted by: Kathy "Shooter Grrl" Littman May 23, 2007 06:50 PM
2.4 Safety Areas
The host organization is responsible for the construction and placement of a sufficient number of Safety Areas for the match. They should be conveniently placed and easily identified with signs. Safety Areas should include a table with the safe direction and boundaries clearly shown. Safety Areas should include a suitable gun rack or racks, as they are intended for use by all IPSC disciplines, particularly during Tournaments.
2.4.1 Competitors are permitted to use the Safety Areas for the activities
stated below provided they remain within the boundaries of
the Safety Area and the firearm is pointed in a safe direction.
Violations may be subject to match disqualification (see Rules
10.5.1 & 10.5.12).
2.4.1.1 Casing, uncasing, and holstering unloaded firearms.
2.4.1.2 Practice the mounting, drawing, “dry-firing” and re-holstering
of unloaded firearms.
2.4.1.3 Practice the insertion and removal of empty magazines
and/or to cycle the action of a firearm.
2.4.1.4 Conduct inspections, stripping, cleaning, repairs and maintenance
of firearms, component parts and other accessories.
No DQ - while not specifically stated as allowable, it's also not specifically stated as NOT ALLOWABLE. The competitor left it in a safe position, within the boundaries.
(Nice writing :)
Posted by: Kathy "Shooter Grrl" Littman May 23, 2007 06:50 PM
I didn't know Mickey Spillane/Mike Hammer was in the NROI .....
:-)
Posted by: Vince Pinto May 23, 2007 09:07 PM
The Dick got up on the wrong side of the bed, alone as usual, and took his frustration out on a straight shooter. Send him to school with McMeanus to get the scoop.
Posted by: Call me "Da Rabbit" May 23, 2007 09:58 PM
The DQ was issued (wrongly so!). The 'palooka' that issued the disipline was a long toothed, well trained & certified RO.
The 'palooka' had slipped into the trap of wanting there to be a rule that sent this 'sap' packing.
The 'sap's' only really mistake was not seeking final ruling from the MD for the evenings events, before slopping off with his tail between his legs.
There should have been no DQ, may be just a friendly reminder that leaving a "hot little number" unattended is not a smart idea, as some wise guys might get "itchy fingers" and "have it away on his toes" with such a great gift.
The 'palooka' was shown the error of his ways, and issued a personal appology to the 'sap', no harm, no foul!
Posted by: One of the 'stand up guys' May 24, 2007 06:51 PM
DQ.
This is not a MG match where a safety facility is secured for the abandonment of a firearm.
As per the rule book 2.4.x pertaining to the safety area!
Aside from from being a bumb ass and allowing your firearm to be stolen and used to ROB the local 711! If you are not safe, you are not responsible and therefore not SAFE! Again DQ!
Posted by: Rob Martin May 26, 2007 07:24 PM
No DQ.Da bum shoulda put his blaster in his range bag.This is a case of bad judgement,not a saftey violation.
Posted by: ken miller May 28, 2007 07:31 PM
What if, instead of stepping away for a smoke, a doctor attending your match left his gun in the safe area to render emergency aid to someone having a heart attack? Should he be DQ'd? If leaving a safe gun in a safe condition in a Safe Area is a safety issue it should be so regardless of the amount of time, or reason, the owner is outside the confines of the Safe Area. If your range bag was just outside the Safe Area and you stepped over to it in order to get a bore-snake, for example, wouldn't you have commited the same infraction?
NO DQ.
Posted by: bob engellenner May 29, 2007 01:48 PM
While it doesn't happen often, it's not unusual to see a pistol laying on the safety table when one is located near the porta-potty at a major match.
While it could (and may have) happen, I'm not familiar with anyone's gun being stolen while they were in the can.
No rule against it. IMHO no DQ.
dj
Posted by: Dennis Jarrell July 12, 2007 07:12 PM
